For this you will need 2 dgl-4500 routers !
one for testing and from the other one take the 2.4/5.8 ghx mini pci module and with an mini pci to pci adapter use it on pc with the standars atheros xspan drivers !
that way you could test 5.8 with atheros client even if they do not sell yet !
And sorry for my bad english !

Given the bizarre throughput graphs obtained by mixing the D-Link router and Linksys adapter at 5 GHz, I can't help but think that this review misses the boat by not testing using Intel's 4965AGN card at 5 GHz. This card is actually part of the Draft-N testbed, and has been factory-installed in a large number of laptops (including Leonovo and Dell). So we know that D-Link has already conducted their own tests with it, as part of Draft-N certification.

A lot of people who had the 4965AGN factory-installed, which uses three highly-efficient antennas built into their laptop's display, are now trying to figure out which router to buy to go along with the card. Perhaps D-Link even had this in mind in bringing their dual-band router to market at this time.

So, how about it?

Thanks for an otherwise informative review.

Does the DGL-4500 support WDS? (I haven't found an answer to this in the review, but maybe I missed it?)

No. The 4500 doesn't support WDS.

Alexyy the lastest Atheros chip supports xspan and 2.4/5.8GHz. Lenovo offerers Thinkpad wireless cards which uses the AR5008 chip. They are not the only one to currently offer cards with that chip.

The Linksys card that I tested with is Wi-Fi Draft 2.0 certified, plus Broadcom's dual-band router and card reference designs are also part of the WFA 11n test bed.

Intel initially showed interest in having us test the 4965AGN, but never followed through.

Oh well. Unfortunately, the Linksys adapter wasn't tested against the D-Link router as part of certification. You'd hope that wouldn't matter, but your test results appear to indicate that it does.

And, unfortunately, the D-Link routers are the last piece of the puzzle in the current dual-band market. That's why you've been getting so much email, because a lot of us are holding up purchases waiting for DGL-4500 review results, which will also apply to the long-awaited DIR-855.

I've already gotten four ThinkPad T61s with 4965AGNs in them and, if I could pry one of them out of my users' hands, I'd ship it to you so that you could, hopefully, get non-goofy results out of the DGL-4500. After all, the 4965AGN only costs 30-40 bucks, if you have a laptop that's certified to work with it. In fact, I'd bet a lot of us would be willing to chip in for the card. Any info out of D-Link about when they expect to Draft-N *CERTIFY* the tardy DWA-160 dual-band adapter? Would you be willing to test with it then, even if the adapter is not yet shipping?

In any case, your reviews are some of the most thorough on the Web, and the comparison charts are particularly nice. We wouldn't be bugging you about the DGL-4500 if you weren't on the bleeding edge of reviewing such equipment. Your readers are on the bleeding edge of buying it -- we're just trying not to bleed too much! ;-)

The page for the MiniPCI Express cards sold by this etailer is "http://www.oxfordtec.com/us/MiniPCI-EXPRESS-Wireless-802.11n-draft---300Mbps/c42_46/index.html". Unfortunately, they are out of stock on the old-fashioned dual band draft 802.11n MiniPCI cards, and do not carry any CardBus nor ExpressCard dual-band draft 802.11n adapters. Therefore, you need a notebook with a MiniPCI Express slot to use these cards.

Thanks for the offer of sending in a Thinkpad. But I'd have to open it up to access the antenna terminals on the card. Don't think you'd want me doing that.

I monitor the FCC and Wi-Fi Certification sites for new products. So far the DWA-160 hasn't appeared. I wouldn't expect it until Feb/March 2008.

Upgrading an existing notebook with a draft 11n card isn't that practical since older notebooks don't have three antennas. Yes, you could use two antennas, but then that won't provide optimum performance.

I think next month's CES will bring more options for dual-band draft 11n, so I suggest you hang on until then.

My earlier comment should have mentioned that the dual band cards stocked were Atheros-based cards, which would complement this router well in tests. I am sorry that such an important detail was left off. It might have been cut off at the title.

D-Link received Draft-N certification for its DWA-160 dual-band USB adapter today, according to wi-fi.org. Since D-Link has already offered to send SmallNetBuilder a DWA-160 for testing with the DGL-4500, those test results would be interesting. ;-)

Picked up the DGL-4500 this week and so far I'm impressed but it would be nice to leave my neighbors with their crowded 2Ghz band. I'm disappointed D-Link doesn't have a 5Ghz A/N cardbus notebook adapter. I was happy with my D-Link DI-754 and D-Link DWL-AB650 running A at 108Mb...until recent unexplained disconnects when viewing too many simultaneous web sites. I've been the ONLY person running A for so many years in my area that I want to go back to the lonely 5Ghz band. Too bad I can't do it with my D-Link DWA-652.

I'm debating on getting the Linksys WRT600N and WPC600N combo so I can go 5Ghz.

Somebody please tell my why I shouldn't.

My DGL-4300 has given up the ghost. I would gladly replace it with the same model since it was the best router I've ever owned, hands down.

I was in doubt of replacing it with a Draytek router, but Draytek still does not seem to sell routers with Gigabit switched included, not in their end-user ranges anyway. And now I see D-link has got a successor to their 4300, the 4500. AND it supports jumbo frames this time! Wow! Me want it! But... I remember something about WiFi class A not being allowed in Europe for some reason, even though I cannot remember why exactly. I also remember reading somewhere this ban would be lifted. Is this true? Will the DGL-4500 become available in Europe? I certainly hope so! (isn't is also true that the radiation at the 5Ghz range is less harmful that the radiation coming from the 2.4 Ghz range?)

Could you provide any more info on this for me?

Cheers!

Cheers for asking Tim! I guess I'll buy another 4300 then...

Tim, the Wi-Fi Alliance says that today it certified an additional version (v.B1) of D-Link's DWA-160 Xtreme N Duo USB Adapter, and I've seen eleven retailers that say they now have the DWA-160 in stock.

You said to wait for announcements from CES, and CES has since come and gone. So we're waiting for you to follow through on your above promise to test the DGL-4500 with the DWA-160!

So I picked up a dgl 4500 paired with an Atheros b/g/n mini pci card. It works great and my router is all the way in the basement and I'm on the second floor and I still get 1.6mpbs downloads. My only problem is that when I use a bitorrent client and seed for I lose connection to the net. I even added it as a 'special app' in the router but I still have trouble. Any thoughts, suggestions?

Has anyone seen a DWA-160 in the wild? Amazon is showing 3-6 weeks and no adapter is worth $120.

Noticed a driver available for the DWA-160 as of 04/14/08 and some sites apparently have them in stock. Anyone here have one? Any reviews coming? I'd get one but still waiting on local store availability in case I need to return it because I don't like it.

I don't like the choice of white for this product or any PC or networking product; leave that for that other company. The color makes the adapter plastic look really cheap.

This adapter is wider than your normal device and did not fit in any of my notebook USB ports. A
big minus in my book and a royal pain to tote around the wired adapter; I'm afraid I'll
accidently drop it in the toilet. At least the adapter is sturdy and doest appear to get
knocked over easily. Again it is white and that is a problem. Just think about dirt.

Maybe D-Link can sell icloths or something to clean them.

I was using the DWA-652 with the DGL-4500 strictly in N mode. I changed the DGL-4500's band to 5GHz and only used the DWA-160 in N mode. It's nice to see I'm still the only person in my area using 802.11 on the 5GHz band.

Maximum link connect with this is now 270Mb while 300Mb was the norm with the other product.

My signal ranges from none to sometimes good, but usually just enough to get a connection.

And this was after having to go upstairs and getting close enough to increase power to
maximum on the router. I set it to low initially and was getting lots of disconnects. The
medium power setting wasn't much better. The DI-754 running A has always served me at the
lowest power setting and also the DWA-AB650 I still use on another laptop. The DWA-160
doesn't give me a power option.

The utility from the shipping driver (v1.00 and same as web site) appears to be the same as
the latest DWA-652 beta driver utility. You get one orange light that just flashes and is
much more annoying because of its size. The manual doesn't tell you anything about what the
lights indicate. Wish there were two like link and activity.

It was a pain to get this thing working somewhat reliably and I'm considering returning it.

I'll hang on to it just long enough to see if 2.4GHz is really that crowded around here. My
wife already hates the thought of having to carry around a wired device to a "wireless"
laptop. It's starting to look like a mcair! http://youtube.com/watch?v=n6SAvHWzhOQ

you could try this http://cgi.ebay.com/802-11n-Wi...d-Adapter- 300Mbps_W0QQitemZ150253630806QQihZ005QQcategoryZ45002QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem, its latest atheros chip AR9102, dual band device